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I shall not be deleted [Jan. 29th, 2005|08:03 am]

psychosis_lame (</a></b></a>[info]psychosis_lame) wrote in </a></b></a>[info]nonfluffypagans,
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Fabulously Gay and Invoking the Goddess




Do any of you think that Gay guys should be allowed to invoke or embody Goddesses? Being a gay man, and not a fluffy pagan, I just wondered what you all thought. Is sexuality based primarily internally, or externally, in genital configuration?



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</a></b></a>[info]solandra

2005-01-29 07:03
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Could someone please delete this? This is Robin Artisson posting this, harrassing my friend Anthony, and I'm also the co-owner of the website, Psychosis Lane. This person also stole a copyrighted image. I'll also talk to the livejournal managment.

Thanks.

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</a></b></a>[info]imptail

2005-01-29 07:13
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Where is your proof that this is Robin? It looks like a person asking a perfectly legitimate question.

In my opinion, homosexuality _is_ an internal thing, not a matter of genitalia. It's more hormonal, or part of an internal polarity issue. A gay man _can_ have feminine energy. So invoke Her away, girlfriend!





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</a></b></a>[info]evilwildlex

2005-01-29 09:11
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Check the userinfo:

http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=psychosis_lame

It looks to me like it is a fake journal meant to harass the guy.

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I am afraid I have to plat the Devil's advocate here...
</a></b></a>[info]metalpriestess

2005-01-29 07:33
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and agree with imptail. How do you know for sure this poster is Robin Artisson? I don't think you should assume that this person isn't legitimatly asking a question. What kind of example do you set for this group, and who should really be banned. I thought per the rules of this group, that we weren't allowed to come out and blast people the way idunsgarden has done. Maybe the management of this group should consider her groups status, considering she is bringing a personal gripe in here.

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Re: I am afraid I have to plat the Devil's advocate here...
</a></b></a>[info]solandra

2005-01-29 08:29
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Ahh. Another ID from Robin Artisson. If this is all you can do to "get back" at Anthony for making a post against you, for being a troll, which, obviously, you're showing how great you are at that by mangleing our website name and using copyrighted images (Oh, I noticed you changed that as soon as I mentioned that), then you're even more pathetic than I ever gave you credit for. This is so completely juvenile and stupid beyond all imagining. You go ahead, keep producing more and more LJ ID's in order to harass others.

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Re: I am afraid I have to plat the Devil's advocate here...
</a></b></a>[info]psychosis_lame

2005-01-29 08:30
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I'm going to just let you rant in your corner, yu are a little disturbed. Anyone have anything to say about my question?

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Re: I am afraid I have to play the Devil's advocate here...
</a></b></a>[info]metalpriestess

2005-01-29 08:53
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Excuse me, but I am not Robin Artisson. To be fair, I compared your websites from the links given, and found Mr Artisson's to be a good deal more informative, interesting, competent and mature. I mean one just has to look at your icon to realize how juvenile you are.
I didn't make this LJ to harass anyone. If you have a gripe with this Robin Artisson, could you please go somewhere else with it. Do you hate gay people and think gays can't be pagan or something? I want to try to answer this person's question, but can't because you keep imagining it is someone else.

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</a></b></a>[info]psychosis_lame

2005-01-29 08:00
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um.. excuse me? I'm not Robin artison! I'm just asking a question here thankyouverymuch!

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YES PLEASE
</a></b></a>[info]frida_bandita

2005-01-29 07:17
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I really don't appreciate someone using my copyrighted image. Not just anyone can be that ugly, AND I WANT COMPENSATION!
Oh woe is mean and that EVIL Robin Artisson !

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</a></b></a>[info]thepixeltypo

2005-01-29 07:29
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I believe that the Lady is a centre of female energy, so if a gay man uses his femininity to invoke and respect, I see no problem there. I don't feel I can embody the Horned One though, I'm not a man. So I'm not sure if a gay man can embody the Lady

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</a></b></a>[info]merona

2005-01-29 07:54
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This troll bullshit is getting old.

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</a></b></a>[info]psychosis_lame

2005-01-29 08:00
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yeah sis it is getting old- I'm just trying to ask a questiun here. Do we need trolls? no we do not. We do not.

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</a></b></a>[info]solandra

2005-01-29 08:23
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Yep. So, now, how many ID's does Robin Artisson have? It's pretty pathetic when someone just has nothing better to do than sit around all day and make accounts in order to harass people.

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</a></b></a>[info]psychosis_lame

2005-01-29 08:27
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It's just as pathetic as people that harass people for trying to ask a question. Or when people harass people who just try to participate in a communitiy. You have anything useful to say? Are yu gay?



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</a></b></a>[info]solandra

2005-01-29 08:31
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Well, Robin, nice of you to talk about gay people. Funny, really, since you're obsessed with anal sex, even telling me that at one time, you enjoyed getting it up the ass because it, "raises the cunning fire". Issues, much?

Go on. Keep doing what you're doing. Waste your time, and your life. All you ever can do is copy others, steal their info, and mutilate it until it becomes something disgusting and unrecognizable anyway. You and your "friends", aka, your multiple ID's which are ALL YOU, can stay up all night replying and fuming and thinking of new ways in which to infiltrate groups and troll around.

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</a></b></a>[info]gemilwitch

2005-01-29 08:40
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I realize that in a non-fluffy list we have to understand that not everyone is expected to get along, but WTF? I don't think that this warrants a whole bunch of posts about something that happened way back in the when. Why don't you either answer the question or back the fuck off. And if this person is who you say they are well, then that person should really get a life and stop being a dick as well, but. . all I see is someone who is asking what I would consider a legitimate question.

Now to answer your question regarding whether a gay man should/could draw down the Goddess. I personally think that if you feel that is what you want to do, do it. I have been in a circle where the priestess was a man and the priest was a woman and both drew down there opposing God/dess (ie. The priest drawing down the goddess and vice versa). I have to say that it was a little weird, but then again I have only been in circles where it was conventional. Just my .02

Greg

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a man getting it up the ass
</a></b></a>[info]metalpriestess

2005-01-29 09:21
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makes me horny. If that is an issue, than it's a sexy one. I wish the real Robin would show up, so we could meet. *wink wink*

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Troll or not, might as well give my opinion
</a></b></a>[info]atalantapendrag

2005-01-29 08:34
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Er. Since when does gay man=feminine? I've known some pretty damn manly gay guys, and a few really femme straight ones. A gay man might be more accepting of his "feminine side" in most cultures than a straight one, but screwing men does not turn someone female.

I believe both "male" and "female" energies are present in everyone to some degree and with enough focus, can be tapped into by anyone, although most people will be more comfortable with one than the other.

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</a></b></a>[info]midnightfae

2005-01-29 08:42
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Oh... and imptail is playing too... *waits patiently for swiss to show up*

In the meantime, however... I don't really care. I figure that's between the person and the Goddess in question. If She objects, she'll let you know.

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</a></b></a>[info]embrionica

2005-01-29 08:48
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I think you are just another id that idunsgarden uses.

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</a></b></a>[info]midnightfae

2005-01-29 08:58
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Um... good for you?

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</a></b></a>[info]midnightfae

2005-01-29 08:59
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Out of curiousity, since I don't know who you are *or* who this other person is... why do you think that?

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</a></b></a>[info]embrionica

2005-01-29 09:01
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because you are supporting the people who are against Robin. Anyone who does that must be the same person, the same way anyone who supports Robin are all Robin. Don't you know this game?


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</a></b></a>[info]midnightfae

2005-01-29 09:07
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Nope.. since I don't play it. I just know that this post has turned into a flame war, and the drama on this community regarding the whole situation is really irritating me. I don't know if imptail is robin... or someone else. Personally, I don't care. Hell, I don't even know who is Robin is, other than he acted like a pompous ass when I said I didn't like his essay. *shrugs* Whatever. Not everyone likes me, I don't like everyone. Life goes on. The reason why I think this post, or at least a good chunk of the comments, is going to go away once the mods get around is because there's no discussion, just flame and bait. Regardless, I did answer the question posed, honestly no less.

I'm just sick of showing up to a community I usually enjoy and being presented with spam and drama. As such, my patience has worn thin.

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a question for idunsgarden
</a></b></a>[info]embrionica

2005-01-29 08:45
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So lemme get this real- nine people besides you have posted here, and you think this is a grand conspiracy on the part of your ex boyfriend Robin to get back at you or stalk you or your friends? You think they are all him? Do you take medication?

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Re: a question for idunsgarden
</a></b></a>[info]evilwildlex

2005-01-29 09:18
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I think that idunsgarden's main accusation was towards psychosis_lame. And quite frankly, if you look at the journal's userinfo, it seems like it was meant to mock the friend named Anthony. I think it is a valid concern. O.o

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Re; Fabulously Gay and Invoking the Goddess
</a></b></a>[info]metalpriestess

2005-01-29 09:12
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"Do any of you think that Gay guys should be allowed to invoke or embody Goddesses? Being a gay man, and not a fluffy pagan, I just wondered what you all thought. Is sexuality based primarily internally, or externally, in genital configuration?"

I think anyone, regardless of orientation, should be "allowed" to attempt to invoke or embody Goddesses. Whether or not they are sucessful, is another matter. I don't feel that genital configuration is as much of a factor as one might think. In our pre-embyonic state, we all come from the same genes, before the cell number of the embryo becomes an odd number, thus beginning cell differentiation and the determination of gender. This being the case, I feel all humans have it deep within themselves to invoke a God or a Goddess, because our essense all comes from the same place.

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